10.3 Gnome Opensuse Updater unwanted additional updates

After installing openSUSE 10.3 32 bit, the Gnome Updater applet
keeps telling me "Additional updates available". The additional
update it is offering is in fact the package "openmotif22-libs"
which according to its description is a 64 bit package and only
needed for software which doesn't compile with the latest
OpenMotif version, so I don't think I want that.

Is there a way to tell the Updater once and for all that I am
not interested and that it should only attract my attention
again if there is something *else* to update? Something like
the "do not offer this update again" checkbox in *cough* Windows?

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Tilman,

what if you set it to "Taboo" in Yast's software management?

Uwe


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Am 05.11.2007 06:07 schrieb Uwe Buckesfeld:
> what if you set it to "Taboo" in Yast's software management?

Not sure how I would do that. The old software management I knew
seems to be gone. Starting YaST from the Gnome menu now opens a
window called "YaST-Kontrollzentrum" (YaST Control Center?)
containing many icons. One of these is labelled "Software
installieren oder löschen" ("Install or remove software") so I
guess it would correspond to the old Software Management pane.
But clicking on that just opens (after lengthy reading of caches,
loading of package lists, etc.) a window titled "Paketauswahl"
(Package Selection) which is the same I get when clicking on
"Details" in the openSUSE Updater window, and just allows me to
move packages between "Available" and "Installed". I cannot see
any way of setting something to "Taboo" like with the old YaST.

Thanks,
Tilman

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Tilman,

that's just the ugly Gnome yast. I really tried using Gnome for two or three weeks now on one machine and again I ran back to KDE <G>

Try launching Yast in a console. The handling should be more like the "old" Yast. I assume you can also launch the Qt-Yast, but I simply don't know how yet.

Uwe

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Am 07.11.2007 06:16 schrieb Uwe Buckesfeld:
> that's just the ugly Gnome yast.

Indeed it is.

> I really tried using Gnome for two or three weeks now on one machine and again I ran back to KDE <G>

I actually like Gnome, just not the way SuSE has cri^Wintegrated it.

> Try launching Yast in a console. The handling should be more like the "old" Yast. I assume you can also launch the Qt-Yast, but I simply don't know how yet.

Don't you read release notes? :-p

You have to edit /etc/sysconfig/yast2, changing the WANTED_GUI line from
"auto" to "qt". A command line option would have been too simple, I guess.

Unfortunately, it doesn't help. I set the "openmotif22-libs" package
to "taboo" in Qt-YaST, restarted opensuse-updater-gnome, and it still
displays a yellow gearwheel saying "Additional updates available".
When I ask for details, it now shows the Qt-YaST as selected in
/etc/sysconfig/yast2, but the "taboo" mark on openmotif22-libs just
doesn't stick.

Other ideas? Bugzilla time?

Thanks,
Tilman

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* Tilman Schmidt wrote, On 11/08/2007 12:09 AM:

> Don't you read release notes? :-p

I do! But in a very selective manner. Since I hardly ever use Yast for software, I probably forgot immediately or didn't even recognize the hint:

> You have to edit /etc/sysconfig/yast2, changing the WANTED_GUI line from
> "auto" to "qt". A command line option would have been too simple, I guess.

:-)
Thanks!

> Unfortunately, it doesn't help. I set the "openmotif22-libs" package
> to "taboo" in Qt-YaST, restarted opensuse-updater-gnome, and it still
> displays a yellow gearwheel saying "Additional updates available".
> When I ask for details, it now shows the Qt-YaST as selected in
> /etc/sysconfig/yast2, but the "taboo" mark on openmotif22-libs just
> doesn't stick.
>
> Other ideas? Bugzilla time?

Let me see what I can find. I assume installing it isn't an option? I usually just let it (Smart, in my case) update and change whatever it wants.
There are some bizarre dependency issues anyway (try deselecting the "games" pattern and keep the 3d effects during installation).

Uwe

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Uwe Buckesfeld schrieb:
> * Tilman Schmidt wrote, On 11/08/2007 12:09 AM:
>
>> I set the "openmotif22-libs" package
>> to "taboo" in Qt-YaST, restarted opensuse-updater-gnome, and it still
>> displays a yellow gearwheel saying "Additional updates available".
>> When I ask for details, it now shows the Qt-YaST as selected in
>> /etc/sysconfig/yast2, but the "taboo" mark on openmotif22-libs just
>> doesn't stick.
>>
>> Other ideas? Bugzilla time?
>
> Let me see what I can find. I assume installing it isn't an option?

Sure, that's an option. I guess it wouldn't do much harm installing a
libs package I have no intention of using. It just doesn't feel right.

Another option would be to get rid of the updater applet and run
"online_update -k" from cron to get update notifications by mail like
I do on my servers, or even to do away entirely with notifications and
just run "yast2 online_update" (or some "smart" equivalent) manually
whenever I feel like it. Those are the alternatives I'm contemplating
if the applet cannot be tweaked to do what I want.

Thanks,
Tilman

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On 11/09/2007 Tilman Schmidt wrote:
> Sure, that's an option. I guess it wouldn't do much harm installing a
> libs package I have no intention of using. It just doesn't feel
> right.

There's a pending enhancement request for Opensuse 11, I've been told.

> Another option would be to get rid of the updater applet and
> run "online_update -k" from cron to get update notifications by mail
> like I do on my servers, or even to do away entirely with
> notifications and just run "yast2 online_update" (or some "smart"
> equivalent) manually whenever I feel like it. Those are the
> alternatives I'm contemplating if the applet cannot be tweaked to do
> what I want.

I have the applet running and use smart whenever I see an update. Then again I'm not picky.

Uwe

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Uwe Buckesfeld wrote:

> I have the applet running and use smart whenever I see an update. Then
> again I'm not picky.

2 comments on smart:

Smart also has an applet, but I never managed to make it work as a user.

The other is that in suse 10.2 smart added automatically lots of
repositories and their mirrors. This is unfortunately not so anymore in
10.3.

Any clues?

Cheers,

-G-

On 11/10/2007 -G- wrote:
> Smart also has an applet, but I never managed to make it work as a
> user.

Me neither :-)

> The other is that in suse 10.2 smart added automatically lots
> of repositories and their mirrors. This is unfortunately not so
> anymore in 10.3.

Are you sure? I thought it read the repositories from Yast, and I never saw it adding any mirrors on its own.
I usually just add a couple of repos from my favorite mirror which is very reliable. If you use download.opensuse.org, that should always resolve to a mirror anyways.

Uwe

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