YAST problem updating software

I have a number of Yast repostories. On one of them I can clearly see,
when going to their repostory, a particularly update. This is in the
packman repository at http://packman.iu-bremen.de/suse/9.3/ , The
particular rpm is libcdio-0.76-0.pm.0.i586.rpm. Yet in Yast's Install
and Remove Software, it shows that I have installed version 0.72-3.1 and
that version 0.75.0 is available. Of course when I go to update libcdio
it says it can not find version 0.75.0, which is correct because it is
not there but version 0.76.0 clearly is there and Yast does nto see it.

Is Yast just a broken piece of software as far as the Install and Remove
software is concerned ? That would be serious. I have used both apt (
Synaptic ) and yum ( Yumex ) before and both were pretty solid. Yast's
software modules seem primitive by comparison yet I felt I should give
it a try. But if it does not work I clearly need something that does. An
application which installs, updates, and deletes software is too
critical to have such bugs. If someone can tell me what is wrong with it
I would be glad to hear about it. Thanks !

Edward Diener <eldiener@earthlink.net> wrote in news:Rmo_e.2297
$jT.1888@prv-forum2.provo.novell.com:

> Of course when I go to update libcdio
> it says it can not find version 0.75.0, which is correct because it is
> not there but version 0.76.0 clearly is there and Yast does nto see it.

Try moving packman to the very top of the install sources.

Uwe

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Edward Diener adjusted his/her tinfoil beanie to post:

> I have a number of Yast repostories. On one of them I can clearly see,
> when going to their repostory, a particularly update. This is in the
> packman repository at http://packman.iu-bremen.de/suse/9.3/ , The
> particular rpm is libcdio-0.76-0.pm.0.i586.rpm. Yet in Yast's Install
> and Remove Software, it shows that I have installed version 0.72-3.1
> and that version 0.75.0 is available. Of course when I go to update
> libcdio it says it can not find version 0.75.0, which is correct
> because it is not there but version 0.76.0 clearly is there and Yast
> does nto see it.
>
> Is Yast just a broken piece of software as far as the Install and
> Remove software is concerned ? That would be serious. I have used both
> apt ( Synaptic ) and yum ( Yumex ) before and both were pretty solid.
> Yast's software modules seem primitive by comparison yet I felt I
> should give it a try. But if it does not work I clearly need something
> that does. An application which installs, updates, and deletes
> software is too critical to have such bugs. If someone can tell me
> what is wrong with it I would be glad to hear about it. Thanks !



Have you refreshed the source?

Well there are version of apt, yum and red carpet, yum and RC are a
little experimental but apt works perfect on Suse, I use it instead of
Yast for software due to the fact that there are more apps for my
systems config.

Rc and Yum do not have any repositories for the 64bit SuSE10 ( well none
last time I looked )

http://linux01.gwdg.de/apt4rpm/

HTH
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Mark
Twixt hill and high water
N. Wales, UK
Novell Support Forums SysOp

Uwe Buckesfeld wrote:
> Edward Diener <eldiener@earthlink.net> wrote in news:Rmo_e.2297
> $jT.1888@prv-forum2.provo.novell.com:
>
>
>>Of course when I go to update libcdio
>>it says it can not find version 0.75.0, which is correct because it is
>>not there but version 0.76.0 clearly is there and Yast does nto see it.
>
>
> Try moving packman to the very top of the install sources.

OK, but why should this matter ? Should not Yast be finding, for a
particular rpm, the latest version from all possible install sources and
presenting that as the version to which to upgrade ?

baskitcaise wrote:
> Edward Diener adjusted his/her tinfoil beanie to post:
>
>
>>I have a number of Yast repostories. On one of them I can clearly see,
>>when going to their repostory, a particularly update. This is in the
>>packman repository at http://packman.iu-bremen.de/suse/9.3/ , The
>>particular rpm is libcdio-0.76-0.pm.0.i586.rpm. Yet in Yast's Install
>>and Remove Software, it shows that I have installed version 0.72-3.1
>>and that version 0.75.0 is available. Of course when I go to update
>>libcdio it says it can not find version 0.75.0, which is correct
>>because it is not there but version 0.76.0 clearly is there and Yast
>>does nto see it.
>>
>>Is Yast just a broken piece of software as far as the Install and
>>Remove software is concerned ? That would be serious. I have used both
>>apt ( Synaptic ) and yum ( Yumex ) before and both were pretty solid.
>>Yast's software modules seem primitive by comparison yet I felt I
>>should give it a try. But if it does not work I clearly need something
>>that does. An application which installs, updates, and deletes
>>software is too critical to have such bugs. If someone can tell me
>>what is wrong with it I would be glad to hear about it. Thanks !
>
>
>
>
> Have you refreshed the source?

How does one so this ? I thought Yast re-reads the list for each source
each time I go to make changes.

>
> Well there are version of apt, yum and red carpet, yum and RC are a
> little experimental but apt works perfect on Suse, I use it instead of
> Yast for software due to the fact that there are more apps for my
> systems config.
>
> Rc and Yum do not have any repositories for the 64bit SuSE10 ( well none
> last time I looked )

Not a concern as I am using 32bit Suse 9.3.

>
> http://linux01.gwdg.de/apt4rpm/

I looked at this before and I found the instructions less than adequate.

Edward Diener <eldiener@earthlink.net> wrote in
news:k7w_e.2561$jT.1256@prv-forum2.provo.novell.com:

> OK, but why should this matter ? Should not Yast be finding, for a
> particular rpm, the latest version from all possible install sources
> and presenting that as the version to which to upgrade ?

Yes, but I noticed that sometimes it makes a difference. With older
versions of SuSE that is, so far the order appears to not play a role in
SuSE 10.

Uwe

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Uwe Buckesfeld wrote:
> Edward Diener <eldiener@earthlink.net> wrote in
> news:k7w_e.2561$jT.1256@prv-forum2.provo.novell.com:
>
>>OK, but why should this matter ? Should not Yast be finding, for a
>>particular rpm, the latest version from all possible install sources
>>and presenting that as the version to which to upgrade ?
>
> Yes, but I noticed that sometimes it makes a difference. With older
> versions of SuSE that is, so far the order appears to not play a role in
> SuSE 10.

It did not solve the problem. Someone else mentioned to "refresh the
sources", but I do not see where this is done and assumed this is done
automatically.

I will try contacting the administrator at packman to see if the problem
is not on their end. Yast still shows libcdio version in their
repository as 0.75 while one can easily see it is 0.76. I have no idea why.

Edward Diener <eldiener@earthlink.net> wrote in
news:7rx_e.2674$jT.1221@prv-forum2.provo.novell.com:

> It did not solve the problem. Someone else mentioned to "refresh the
> sources", but I do not see where this is done and assumed this is done
> automatically.

In the "Installation Source" dialog in Yast, highlight the installation
source, click "Edit", then "Refresh". For 9.3 that is in 10.0 it will be
more obvious.

> I will try contacting the administrator at packman to see if the
> problem is not on their end. Yast still shows libcdio version in their
> repository as 0.75 while one can easily see it is 0.76. I have no idea
> why.

Try a different mirror, maybe.
ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/linux/misc/packman/ plus the subdirectory for your
version.

Uwe

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Please don't send me support related e-mail unless I ask you to do so.

Edward Diener adjusted his/her tinfoil beanie to post:


>> Have you refreshed the source?
>
> How does one so this ? I thought Yast re-reads the list for each
> source each time I go to make changes.

You need to refresh the install medium every time especially if it is an
added source, exactly the same as apt does, go to the change source in
yast and there you will be able to refresh the list.

First turn off any sources that you do not want and move the one you
want to the top, then in the edit drop down you should be able to
"refresh"


> I looked at this before and I found the instructions less than
> adequate.


You d.load and install the needed rpms and edit the ftp/http source file
or grab one of the current ones for your version off the site, that is
it.

HTH
--
Mark
Twixt hill and high water
N. Wales, UK
Novell Support Forums SysOp

Uwe Buckesfeld wrote:
> Edward Diener <eldiener@earthlink.net> wrote in
> news:7rx_e.2674$jT.1221@prv-forum2.provo.novell.com:
>
>>It did not solve the problem. Someone else mentioned to "refresh the
>>sources", but I do not see where this is done and assumed this is done
>>automatically.
>
> In the "Installation Source" dialog in Yast, highlight the installation
> source, click "Edit", then "Refresh". For 9.3 that is in 10.0 it will be
> more obvious.

Do you mean to say that each time I use Yast's "Install and Remove
Software" I must go through each Software Source and manually refresh it
in order to pick up the latest changes ?

That is not my idea of user-friendly software if that is the case. Under
Synaptic-apt it automatically checks within a time period or one can
tell it to check by clicking a single button if the time period has not
expired.

>
>>I will try contacting the administrator at packman to see if the
>>problem is not on their end. Yast still shows libcdio version in their
>>repository as 0.75 while one can easily see it is 0.76. I have no idea
>>why.
>
> Try a different mirror, maybe.
> ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/linux/misc/packman/ plus the subdirectory for your
> version.

OK, I will give that a try. Thanks !