Should I just try to dump ALL audio and start again?

wakou · #1 (**permalink**) 22-Sep-2009, 18:26

I know I have asked before & OldCPU has tried to help, & that regular readers of my blathers will know that I have had a few problems with sounds in openSuse. Here are a few of the problems I have at current:

In NO particular order:

Google video = no sound
You tube = no sound
BBC radio (live streaming ) = no sound
BBC audio (listen again streaming) = no sound
Headphones do not mute speakers
End or restart KDE session plays sounds
Amarok does not play when using xine/autodetect
Amarok does not play when using xine/pulse audio
Amarok DOES play using xine/oss
Amarok DOES play using xine/ALSA; Speakers OK(ish), Headphones horrible (mp3)
When moving "LR Balance" in kmix, the slider is DIRECTLY tied to the MASTER Volume, ie, slide to full right balance, equally brings down master vol, so the further to the right, the lower the master vol slider follows to zero.
mplayer fell over when playing an .avi, BUT:
mplayer played mp3 fine. via speakers but horrible through phones.
mplayer plays .flv ok but with sound/lip-synch problems.
VLC Media played .AVI fine
VLC Played .mp3 OK via speakers horrible through phones(??? need more testing???)!

Here is as much info as I know how to provide:

http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=10...d0ebf0f5f9e7fd

~> speaker-test -Dplug:front -c2 -l5 -twav

speaker-test 1.0.18

Playback device is plug:front
Stream parameters are 48000Hz, S16_LE, 2 channels
WAV file(s)
Rate set to 48000Hz (requested 48000Hz)
Buffer size range from 64 to 262144
Period size range from 32 to 131072
Using max buffer size 262144
Periods = 4
Unable to set hw params for playback: Invalid argument
Setting of hwparams failed: Invalid argument
IE NO SOUND

BUT:

~> speaker-test -c2 -l5 -twav

speaker-test 1.0.18

Playback device is default
Stream parameters are 48000Hz, S16_LE, 2 channels
WAV file(s)
Rate set to 48000Hz (requested 48000Hz)
Buffer size range from 2048 to 16384
Period size range from 1024 to 1024
Using max buffer size 16384
Periods = 4
was set period_size = 1024
was set buffer_size = 16384
0 - Front Left
1 - Front Right
Time per period = 2.680656
0 - Front Left
1 - Front Right
Time per period = 3.007916
0 - Front Left
1 - Front Right
Time per period = 3.008121
0 - Front Left
1 - Front Right

IE WORKS!

~> rpm -qa | grep alsa

alsa-plugins-1.0.18-6.12
alsa-firmware-1.0.17-1.42
kalsatools-1.5.0-499.130
alsa-oss-1.0.17-1.37
alsa-1.0.18-8.12.1
alsa-tools-1.0.18-1.13
alsa-utils-1.0.18-6.4
tsalsa-20080914-0.pm.1
alsa-plugins-jack-1.0.18-6.12
alsa-devel-1.0.18-8.12.1
alsa-plugins-pulse-1.0.18-6.12

~> rpm -qa | grep pulse

libpulse-browse0-0.9.14-2.2.1
libpulse-mainloop-glib0-0.9.14-2.2.1
pulseaudio-module-x11-0.9.14-2.2.1
pulseaudio-module-jack-0.9.14-2.2.1
libpulse0-0.9.14-2.2.1
pulseaudio-module-zeroconf-0.9.14-2.2.1
pulseaudio-utils-0.9.14-2.2.1
pulseaudio-module-bluetooth-0.9.14-2.2.1
pulseaudio-lang-0.9.14-2.2.1
pulseaudio-esound-compat-0.9.14-2.2.1
alsa-plugins-pulse-1.0.18-6.12
libxine1-pulse-1.1.16.3-2.pm.5.9
pulseaudio-0.9.14-2.2.1
pulseaudio-module-lirc-0.9.14-2.2.1

~> rpm -q libasound2

libasound2-1.0.18-8.12.1

~> uname -a

Linux linux-oqc9 2.6.27.29-0.1-pae #1 SMP 2009-08-15 17:53:59 +0200 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux

~> cat /etc/modprobe.d/sound

options snd slots=snd-hda-intel
# CvwD.+OF_NtUExp4:MCP61 High Definition Audio
alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel

~> zypper lr (colon replaced by comma below in X11 to avoid an unwanted smileyface)

# | Alias | Name | Enabled | Refresh
---+--------------------------+------------------------------+---------+--------
1 | 11.1 | 11.1 | Yes | Yes
2 | 11.1 - VideoLan | 11.1 - VideoLan | No | Yes
3 | 20090614-123930 | 20090614-123930 | Yes | Yes
4 | Libdvdcss repository | Libdvdcss repository | Yes | Yes
5 | Packman Repository | Packman Repository | Yes | Yes
6 | X11,XGL | X11,XGL | Yes | Yes
7 | home_accAgon | home:accAgon (openSUSE_11.1) | Yes | No
8 | mozilla | mozilla | Yes | No
9 | openSUSE 11.1-0 | openSUSE 11.1-0 | No | Yes
10 | openSUSE-11.1-Non-Oss | openSUSE-11.1-Non-Oss | Yes | Yes
11 | openSUSE-11.1-Oss | openSUSE-11.1-Oss | Yes | Yes
12 | openSUSE:Factory:Contrib | openSUSE:Factory:Contrib | Yes | Yes
13 | repo-debug | openSUSE-11.1-Debug | No | Yes
14 | repo-non-oss | openSUSE-11.1-Non-Oss | Yes | Yes
15 | repo-oss | openSUSE-11.1-Oss | Yes | Yes
16 | repo-source | openSUSE-11.1-Source | Yes | Yes
17 | repo-update | openSUSE-11.1-Update | Yes | Yes

Surely with this degree of chaos, there must be a simple way of stripping out ANY and ALL references to ALSA, PULSE, eitra? and in fact ALL audio apps, libs, etc etc etc and simply letting YAST rebuild from scratch, starting with just ALSA and maybe judiciously adding in others as needs arise???? And that this would be better than attempting to solve all of the above glitches one by one?

caf4926 · #2 (**permalink**) 22-Sep-2009, 22:04

With regard to the flash no sound issues. Did you try removing the package: libflashsupport ?

oldcpu · #3 (**permalink**) 23-Sep-2009, 01:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by wakou

Google video = no sound
You tube = no sound
BBC radio (live streaming ) = no sound
BBC audio (listen again streaming) = no sound

This is likely a flash problem. Try caf4926's suggestion of removing libflashsupport.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wakou

Headphones do not mute speakers

This is likely because either (a) your PC's audio configuration was not properly autoprobe/autoconfigured at boot, or (b) you need an update that was incorporated in 1.0.19 or 1.0.21 of alsa: Search results - AlsaProject

Quote:

Originally Posted by wakou

End or restart KDE session plays sounds

Then your basic sound works, but we need to work on the headphone automute.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wakou

Amarok does not play when using xine/autodetect
Amarok does not play when using xine/pulse audio
Amarok DOES play using xine/oss
Amarok DOES play using xine/ALSA; Speakers OK(ish), Headphones horrible (mp3)

These read like codec problems to me.

Possibly caused by your not installing the packman packaged amarok, amarok-xine, amarok-packman, libxine1, libxine1-codec and xine-ui. Its also possible you installed videolan or other packages (as you have IMHO WAY TOO MANY repositories) and its possible some of those have caused this. I always recommend ONLY 4 REPOS unless one is sufficiently advanced to be able to (a) detect the problems if an extra repos causes a problem and (b) fix the problem. I do not think that is the case (being able to detect/fix) here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wakou

mplayer fell over when playing an .avi, BUT:
mplayer played mp3 fine. via speakers but horrible through phones.
mplayer plays .flv ok but with sound/lip-synch problems.

From where did you get mplayer? avi is a wrapper. That does not mean anything to say "avi". What codec inside the avi ? Did you try other avi files with different codecs?

Quote:

Originally Posted by wakou

VLC Media played .AVI fine
VLC Played .mp3 OK via speakers horrible through phones(??? need more testing???)!

Again, to say 'avi' does not mean much. What codec in the "avi" ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by wakou

http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=10...d0ebf0f5f9e7fd

OK, so I note an AD1986A hardware audio codec on your PC, which is running 32-bit opensuse-11.1 with the 2.6.27.29-0.1-pae kernel.

Its also possible the 2.6.27.29 kernel update, broke the headphone/speaker automute behaviour of alsa, which for your PC was built for 2.6.27.9 of alsa.

To fix the headphone problem, you could first try to force a model option specific to your PC's hardware audio codec upon boot. For the AD1986A, according to the alsa-configuraton.txt file for 1.0.18 of alsa, the following options are available/listed (with a description):

Code:

	AD1986A
	  6stack	6-jack, separate surrounds (default)
	  3stack	3-stack, shared surrounds
	  laptop	2-channel only (FSC V2060, Samsung M50)
	  laptop-eapd	2-channel with EAPD (Samsung R65, ASUS A6J)
	  laptop-automute 2-channel with EAPD and HP-automute (Lenovo N100)
	  ultra		2-channel with EAPD (Samsung Ultra tablet PC)

So lets say you wish to try forcing one of these options. Start, for example, with the option "6stack". To force that, open the file /etc/modprobe.d/sound file and add a line to the start of that file (saving the change) such that it looks like:

Code:

options snd-hda-intel model=6stack
options snd slots=snd-hda-intel
# CvwD.+OF_NtUExp4:MCP61 High Definition Audio
alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel

and then restart your alsa sound driver by typing su -c 'rcalsasound restart' and enter root password when prompted, restart your mixer (kmix in kde or alsamixer in gnome) and test your sound.

Note to edit the /etc/modprobe.d/sound file

in gnome type: gnomesu gedit /etc/modprobe.d/sound
in kde type: kdesu 'kwrite /etc/modprobe.d/sound'

and enter root password when prompted and save the change.

Test your sound.

If "6stack" does not work, pick another option from the list (say "3stack") and edit that file again, replacing "6stack" with "3stack". Restart alsa. restart your mixer, and test. Do that for each option, ONE at a TIME, until you find one that works.

If none work, post here, and we can investigate the other two possibilities:

possibly the update to 2.6.27.29 broke the automute, or
possibly you need a newer alsa version for your PC's hardware

Quote:

Originally Posted by wakou

~> zypper lr (colon replaced by comma below in X11 to avoid an unwanted smileyface)

what would have been more helpful is: "zypper lr -d " .... I do not know precisely what repos all of those are without the URL.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wakou

# | Alias | Name | Enabled | Refresh
---+--------------------------+------------------------------+---------+--------
1 | 11.1 | 11.1 | Yes | Yes
2 | 11.1 - VideoLan | 11.1 - VideoLan | No | Yes
3 | 20090614-123930 | 20090614-123930 | Yes | Yes
4 | Libdvdcss repository | Libdvdcss repository | Yes | Yes
5 | Packman Repository | Packman Repository | Yes | Yes
6 | X11,XGL | X11,XGL | Yes | Yes
7 | home_accAgon | home:accAgon (openSUSE_11.1) | Yes | No
8 | mozilla | mozilla | Yes | No
9 | openSUSE 11.1-0 | openSUSE 11.1-0 | No | Yes
10 | openSUSE-11.1-Non-Oss | openSUSE-11.1-Non-Oss | Yes | Yes
11 | openSUSE-11.1-Oss | openSUSE-11.1-Oss | Yes | Yes
12 | openSUSE:Factory:Contrib | openSUSE:Factory:Contrib | Yes | Yes
13 | repo-debug | openSUSE-11.1-Debug | No | Yes
14 | repo-non-oss | openSUSE-11.1-Non-Oss | Yes | Yes
15 | repo-oss | openSUSE-11.1-Oss | Yes | Yes
16 | repo-source | openSUSE-11.1-Source | Yes | Yes
17 | repo-update | openSUSE-11.1-Update | Yes | Yes

I recommend you remove all those repos in red. IMHO you are just one update away from totally borking your system.

You also have two OSS, and two Non-OSS. Only one is needed. You should IMHO remove one of each. I also can not tell where your "update" is. That needs to be added.

As noted, if you are not careful at this stage, you could end up doing something that will be difficult to recovery from. Those repos are IMHO a recipe for disaster.

dth2 · #4 (**permalink**) 23-Sep-2009, 03:50

wow - what a comprehensive response from oldcpu!

oldcpu · #5 (**permalink**) 23-Sep-2009, 05:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldcpu

I recommend you remove all those repos in red. IMHO you are just one update away from totally borking your system.
.

Correction to the above, ... assuming "repo-update" is your update repos, then leave that repos in place.

Code:

17 | repo-update | openSUSE-11.1-Update | Yes | Yes

wakou · #6 (**permalink**) 23-Sep-2009, 16:31

Thank-you so much for the advice guys and girls, I have not had time to do any work today, or even to fully digest the reply(ies) because the machine was needed by someone else, but I will have a bash as soon as poss. As someone else was using the machine I took the opportunity to do a few tests in MS Windows, it seems that the headphone not muting could well be a connection/hardware issue, as it is the same there...
I had already realised that my REPO state is a shambles having read other posts on the forum, by oldCPU and Caf among others. Time for a tidy-up!

wakou · #7 (**permalink**) 23-Sep-2009, 17:33

Quick update....
Taking note of what Caf said and with which oldCPU agreed:

Quote:

With regard to the flash no sound issues. Did you try removing the package: libflashsupport ?

So; I did:

Code:

~> su -c 'zypper rm libflashsupport'
Password:
Retrieving repository '20090614-123930' metadata [done]
Building repository '20090614-123930' cache [done]
Retrieving repository 'Packman Repository' metadata [done]
Building repository 'Packman Repository' cache [done]
Retrieving repository 'openSUSE:Factory:Contrib' metadata [done]
Building repository 'openSUSE:Factory:Contrib' cache [done]
Loading repository data...
Reading installed packages...
Resolving package dependencies...

The following package is going to be REMOVED:
  libflashsupport


After the operation, 20.0 K will be freed.
Continue? [YES/no]: y
Removing libflashsupport-1.2-4.20 [done]

And................... WOO HOOOOT!

For the first time ever the kids can use YouTube & googlevideo without firing up WindowsXP!!!
RESULT!

PS I have no clue what the repos. in red italics does or provides or even why I put it there in the first place! Next job, "TIDY UP THEM REPOS!!"

A BIG thank-you to oldcpu, Caf, and all others who have offered help!

ps here is current zypper lr -d if anyone interested....

~> zypper lr -d

Code:

#  | Alias                    | Name                         | Enabled | Refresh | Priority | Type
| URI                                                                                 | Service
---+--------------------------+------------------------------+---------+---------+----------+--------
+-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+--------
1  | 11.1                     | 11.1                         | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md
| http://download.nvidia.com/opensuse/11.1                                            |
2  | 11.1 - VideoLan          | 11.1 - VideoLan              | No      | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md
| http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/vlc/SuSE/11.1/                            |
3  | 20090614-123930          | 20090614-123930              | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md
| ftp://download.videolan.org/%2fpub/videolan/vlc/SuSE/11.1/                          |
4  | Libdvdcss repository     | Libdvdcss repository         | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | NONE
| http://suse.linuxin.dk/repo/11.1/                                                   |
5  | Packman Repository       | Packman Repository           | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md
| http://ftp.skynet.be/pub/packman/suse/11.1/                                         |
6  | X11:XGL                  | X11:XGL                      | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md
| http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/X11:/XGL/openSUSE_11.1/                   |
7  | home_accAgon             | home:accAgon (openSUSE_11.1) | Yes     | No      |   99     | rpm-md
| http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/accAgon/openSUSE_11.1/              |
8  | mozilla                  | mozilla                      | Yes     | No      |   99     | rpm-md
| http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/mozilla/openSUSE_11.1/                    |
9  | openSUSE 11.1-0          | openSUSE 11.1-0              | No      | Yes     |   10     | yast2
| iso:///?iso=su.iso&url=hd:///?device=/dev/sda1&filesystem=auto                      |
10 | openSUSE-11.1-Non-Oss    | openSUSE-11.1-Non-Oss        | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | yast2                                                  | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/repo/non-oss                         |
11 | openSUSE-11.1-Oss        | openSUSE-11.1-Oss            | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | yast2                                                  | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/repo/oss                             |
12 | openSUSE:Factory:Contrib | openSUSE:Factory:Contrib     | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md                                                 | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Factory:/Contrib/openSUSE_11.1/ |
13 | repo-debug               | openSUSE-11.1-Debug          | No      | Yes     |  100     | NONE                                                   | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/distribution/11.1/repo/oss/                      |
14 | repo-non-oss             | openSUSE-11.1-Non-Oss        | Yes     | Yes     |  100     | yast2                                                  | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/repo/non-oss/                        |
15 | repo-oss                 | openSUSE-11.1-Oss            | Yes     | Yes     |  100     | yast2                                                  | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/repo/oss/                            |
16 | repo-source              | openSUSE-11.1-Source         | Yes     | Yes     |  100     | yast2                                                  | http://download.opensuse.org/source/distribution/11.1/repo/oss/                     |
17 | repo-update              | openSUSE-11.1-Update         | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md                                                 | http://download.opensuse.org/update/11.1/

wakou · #8 (**permalink**) 23-Sep-2009, 17:48

Another update!

I can now listen to live streamed and listen again streams from the BBC!!!!!!!

WTF did libflashsupport DO???
Anyway thanks again!

caf4926 · #9 (**permalink**) 23-Sep-2009, 19:40

Quote:

WTF did libflashsupport DO???

It's a library interface for flash-player.

From YaST is says:

Quote:

libflashsupport - Additional support for Flash-based applications
Optional Library Interfaces for Adobe Flash Player

pulseaudio
ESD
OpenSSL

Supportability: unknown

But it seems to mess up audio for some. I have it without issue. IIRC most users I have "helped" with this are _64, does this apply to you?

oldcpu · #10 (**permalink**) 24-Sep-2009, 00:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by wakou

here is current zypper lr -d if anyone interested....

~> zypper lr -d

Code:

#  | Alias                    | Name                         | Enabled | Refresh | Priority | Type
| URI                                                                                 | Service
---+--------------------------+------------------------------+---------+---------+----------+--------
+-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+--------
1  | 11.1                     | 11.1                         | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md
| http://download.nvidia.com/opensuse/11.1                                            |
2  | 11.1 - VideoLan          | 11.1 - VideoLan              | No      | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md
| http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/vlc/SuSE/11.1/                            |
3  | 20090614-123930          | 20090614-123930              | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md
| ftp://download.videolan.org/%2fpub/videolan/vlc/SuSE/11.1/                          |
4  | Libdvdcss repository     | Libdvdcss repository         | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | NONE
| http://suse.linuxin.dk/repo/11.1/                                                   |
5  | Packman Repository       | Packman Repository           | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md
| http://ftp.skynet.be/pub/packman/suse/11.1/                                         |
6  | X11:XGL                  | X11:XGL                      | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md
| http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/X11:/XGL/openSUSE_11.1/                   |
7  | home_accAgon             | home:accAgon (openSUSE_11.1) | Yes     | No      |   99     | rpm-md
| http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/accAgon/openSUSE_11.1/              |
8  | mozilla                  | mozilla                      | Yes     | No      |   99     | rpm-md
| http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/mozilla/openSUSE_11.1/                    |
9  | openSUSE 11.1-0          | openSUSE 11.1-0              | No      | Yes     |   10     | yast2
| iso:///?iso=su.iso&url=hd:///?device=/dev/sda1&filesystem=auto                      |
10 | openSUSE-11.1-Non-Oss    | openSUSE-11.1-Non-Oss        | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | yast2                                                  | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/repo/non-oss                         |
11 | openSUSE-11.1-Oss        | openSUSE-11.1-Oss            | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | yast2                                                  | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/repo/oss                             |
12 | openSUSE:Factory:Contrib | openSUSE:Factory:Contrib     | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md                                                 | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Factory:/Contrib/openSUSE_11.1/ |
13 | repo-debug               | openSUSE-11.1-Debug          | No      | Yes     |  100     | NONE                                                   | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/distribution/11.1/repo/oss/                      |
14 | repo-non-oss             | openSUSE-11.1-Non-Oss        | Yes     | Yes     |  100     | yast2                                                  | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/repo/non-oss/                        |
15 | repo-oss                 | openSUSE-11.1-Oss            | Yes     | Yes     |  100     | yast2                                                  | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/repo/oss/                            |
16 | repo-source              | openSUSE-11.1-Source         | Yes     | Yes     |  100     | yast2                                                  | http://download.opensuse.org/source/distribution/11.1/repo/oss/                     |
17 | repo-update              | openSUSE-11.1-Update         | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md                                                 | http://download.opensuse.org/update/11.1/

Keep repos 5, 14, 15, 17. Remove / disable the rest. They are not nominally needed. They can be enabled for special updates only if you have specific reasons and understand the risks/implications of enabling them.

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