Parental control software needed ..

[ddas4]

I am looking for a parental control for my home computers. I want something simple and do not want to go through the elaborate setup of Dans Guardian + Squid. I am currently using WOT with Fox Filter on Firefox ; but Fox Filter has it's limitations for the free version.
Recently i found that mobicip.com supports the linux platform for their parental controls but found from their support team that they only support Ubuntu as of now and do not have plans for OpenSuse support. They are pretty much in lines of K9 or Norton family. Is there anything similar for Opensuse that i can get ?

[ab@novell.com]

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I've heard of some using OpenDNS (opendns.com) for things like this.

Keep in mind that if you have physical access to a machine whose only
restrictions to the Internet are located on that machine (and not
something between that machine and the Internet) it can be circumvented in
some way. For young children this probably isn't a problem but don't
expect it to be perfect protection.

Good luck.





ddas4 wrote:
> I am looking for a parental control for my home computers. I want
> something simple and do not want to go through the elaborate setup of
> Dans Guardian + Squid. I am currently using WOT with Fox Filter on
> Firefox ; but Fox Filter has it's limitations for the free version.
> Recently i found that mobicip.com supports the linux platform for their
> parental controls but found from their support team that they only
> support Ubuntu as of now and do not have plans for OpenSuse support.
> They are pretty much in lines of K9 or Norton family. Is there anything
> similar for Opensuse that i can get ?
>
>
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[malcolmlewis]

Originally Posted by ddas4

I am looking for a parental control for my home computers. I want
something simple and do not want to go through the elaborate setup of
Dans Guardian + Squid. I am currently using WOT with Fox Filter on
Firefox ; but Fox Filter has it's limitations for the free version.
Recently i found that mobicip.com supports the linux platform for their
parental controls but found from their support team that they only
support Ubuntu as of now and do not have plans for OpenSuse support.
They are pretty much in lines of K9 or Norton family. Is there anything
similar for Opensuse that i can get ?

Hi
What about using opendns's services?
http://www.opendns.com/start/
or
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Parental_controls

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[Jonathan_R]

Dansguardian is what you want. DansGuardian - True Web Content Filtering for All
To get the openSUSE rpm you need this repository: Index of /repositories/server:/proxy/openSUSE_11.1 or Index of /repositories/Education/openSUSE_11.1

Please read the dansguardian howto. DansGuardian - True Web Content Filtering for All

You will need squid, which is a proxy, to make this work.

There are also Firefox plugins https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/search?q=paren

Now keep in mind, that once you do this, you will want to disable the menu's so the users can not disable the content filtering.

Here is a rough draft for openSUSE 11.1 Setting up Squid NTLM DansGuardian Sarg - openSUSE

I have set this up a few times. Let me know if you get stuck.

[Jonathan_R]

Originally Posted by Jonathan_R

Dansguardian is what you want. DansGuardian - True Web Content Filtering for All
To get the openSUSE rpm you need this repository: Index of /repositories/server:/proxy/openSUSE_11.1 or Index of /repositories/Education/openSUSE_11.1

Please read the dansguardian howto. DansGuardian - True Web Content Filtering for All

You will need squid, which is a proxy, to make this work.

There are also Firefox plugins https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/search?q=paren

Now keep in mind, that once you do this, you will want to disable the menu's so the users can not disable the content filtering.

Here is a rough draft for openSUSE 11.1 Setting up Squid NTLM DansGuardian Sarg - openSUSE

I have set this up a few times. Let me know if you get stuck.

You may also want to add this Firefox extension: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/14365
And you may want to read this: Firefox Lockdown Information - pcc-services.com

[dragonbite]

What about Glubble for Firefox?

At my house, I have an old (PIII 700Mhz) machine with 2 NICs running IPCop Linux and DansGuardian Add On. It is set right off of the modem (DSL, but I think it handles dial-up as well) so ALL computers on the network is filtered.

I thought this would be better because if somebody uses a LiveCD/LiveUSB then they can easily bypass the local settings regardless of what OS it is running. Not to mention, if somebody brings in their iPod, iPhone or Laptop and connect wirelessly then they too will be filtered as all internet activity goes through this IPCop box.

Plus there is logging, though you have to do a little extra to have it keep track of who is making what request, but it will log the request and such.

It is very quick to set up (like 20 minutes full installation including answering questions and such) and just keeps running and running.

I would love to find a way to run it on a much smaller, more energy efficient system but otherwise there are no complaints. Even my 700MHz system is a little bit of overkill, but it is what I have available. Would rather the low-power-consumption of an Atom chip system (Nettop), but if 700MHz is too much, the 1.6 GHz is WAY overkill.

[Jonathan_R]

Originally Posted by dragonbite

What about Glubble for Firefox?

At my house, I have an old (PIII 700Mhz) machine with 2 NICs running IPCop Linux and DansGuardian Add On. It is set right off of the modem (DSL, but I think it handles dial-up as well) so ALL computers on the network is filtered.

I thought this would be better because if somebody uses a LiveCD/LiveUSB then they can easily bypass the local settings regardless of what OS it is running. Not to mention, if somebody brings in their iPod, iPhone or Laptop and connect wirelessly then they too will be filtered as all internet activity goes through this IPCop box.

Plus there is logging, though you have to do a little extra to have it keep track of who is making what request, but it will log the request and such.

It is very quick to set up (like 20 minutes full installation including answering questions and such) and just keeps running and running.

I would love to find a way to run it on a much smaller, more energy efficient system but otherwise there are no complaints. Even my 700MHz system is a little bit of overkill, but it is what I have available. Would rather the low-power-consumption of an Atom chip system (Nettop), but if 700MHz is too much, the 1.6 GHz is WAY overkill.

I have tried Glubble before. I personally didn't like it. I found it annoying and didn't work as well as dansguardian.

ddas4 wrote:
> I am looking for a parental control for my home computers.

my personal opinion is to place children's computers in a common space
with screens facing the center of the room...install carpet and sneak
up on'em...with a stick in your hand....and if they are
doing/reading/watching/ect something they are not supposed to whack'em
and revoke their computer license for 24 hours...next time withhold
food and water for 24 days...they will *soon* understand!

another way to say that is: no matter what you install (with idea of
turning your parental responsibility over to _software_) you will soon
learn that pimple faced kids are smart enough to get around whatever
software mankind can write..

don't believe me, ask around!!

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palladium
Have a lot of fun..

[dragonbite]

Originally Posted by Jonathan_R

I have tried Glubble before. I personally didn't like it. I found it annoying and didn't work as well as dansguardian.

Hasn't worked for me either (even on Windows), but I thought I would toss it out there anyway.

[ab@novell.com]

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24 days seems just a little extreme.... at least for water. food maybe
okay.... ;-)

palladium wrote:
> ddas4 wrote:
>> I am looking for a parental control for my home computers.
>
> my personal opinion is to place children's computers in a common space
> with screens facing the center of the room...install carpet and sneak
> up on'em...with a stick in your hand....and if they are
> doing/reading/watching/ect something they are not supposed to whack'em
> and revoke their computer license for 24 hours...next time withhold
> food and water for 24 days...they will *soon* understand!
>
> another way to say that is: no matter what you install (with idea of
> turning your parental responsibility over to _software_) you will soon
> learn that pimple faced kids are smart enough to get around whatever
> software mankind can write..
>
> don't believe me, ask around!!
>
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