Yast reports wrong versions

[recraig2]

Originally Posted by caf4926

You should have it sorted now with all that info.
We don't intend to offend FYI.
But you come across kind of bullish.

Anyway. It's NOT a bug. Understand?
The priorities is the key as has been well explained and demonstrated by my friends.

Some of the name changes I was refering to have not occured yet in the kde42 repo, but I'm using Factory and quite a number more have occured here, so I may have miss-quoted about dolphin (kde4-dolphin).
Spit on amarok all you like. I don't give a monkey's what not's. But as media players go, it's 'The Dog's B*llocks'

What? You've never met a person in your life who comes across differently than you do? Maybe you can't handle it when people have different temperaments to you and your buddies. I am me and you are you. If you speak down to me I will get pissed off. If we were in person I'd crack your head on the concrete for talking to me that way. We aren't, so I can't. I did not start by speaking badly to you. Two of you did to me though and I won't put up with it without comment.

[recraig2]

Originally Posted by caf4926

You should have it sorted now with all that info.
We don't intend to offend FYI.

REALLY? With one person calling me a liar based on my first post and then you calling me stupid, you really have the nerve to say you didn't mean to offend me? You are f*@king joking!

Originally Posted by caf4926

But you come across kind of bullish.

And so what? You come across stuck up. So what? My post was NOT bullish. My replies are because two of you insulted me, tucked in with your so-called help.

Originally Posted by caf4926

Anyway. It's NOT a bug. Understand?
The priorities is the key as has been well explained and demonstrated by my friends.

I see. So your "friends" have come to your aid to fight. You have drawn sides when there was no fight. Which means you've started something here.

As for demonstration, the only thing demonstrated is closed-mindedness. No one has asked me for more info or screenshot or data to figure out what is happening and if this is a bug or not. I have already indicated that what was first suggested about priorities is not the case here. I gave the data in the first post, yet it has been ignored and I have been brushed aside since the FIRST post as if I don't know what I'm doing. Then I am offered answers to THAT attitude and insulted as well.

Originally Posted by caf4926

Some of the name changes I was refering to have not occured yet in the kde42 repo, but I'm using Factory and quite a number more have occured here, so I may have miss-quoted about dolphin (kde4-dolphin).

I see. So here we go again. Last time it was KDE 4.2. Everyone here was using that so know one knew what I was talking about when I swore there was no File Manager option for setting default applications. Screenshots were offered then too. Yet, in KDE 4.1.3 there actually was NO option to set File Manager. Now here we have someone swearing that what I am seeing with my own eyes is not true and this person uses the Factory version of KDE. Unbelievable! If you're going to offer help to someone at least offer it knowingly based on the version of KDE they have. If you can't then don't offer that info or state upfront that you are using a bleeding edge version that is probably not being used by most the rest of the universe.

Originally Posted by caf4926

Spit on amarok all you like. I don't give a monkey's what not's. But as media players go, it's 'The Dog's B*llocks'

I'll pull out my pecker for this one. Pissing contest begun!

...
I can see that this forum is for monkeys, not for serious people looking to discuss and find real answers. I've never participated in such a dis-functional forum.

• treat others you don't know as if they are stupid
• deny any bugs in the program you worship
• present anything you can, to seem smarter than the poster, even if it is irrelevant
• insult in a slight of hand manner, jab and antagonize when losing an argument
• when all else fails convince a moderator to ban your opponent
• refuse any offers to return to topic or to talk sensibly
• accuse the other of everything and deny any wrongdoing yourself

This is the sickest behavior I have seen in my 14 years on the Internet. Maybe I should cut you some slack since some of you might BE only 14.

recraig2 wrote:
> Man, this is such a mess!
>

it is only a mess for those who want to be out on the bloody very
leading edge of newness..

if you do not want the hassle of broken updates and repo messes...just
run with the four basic repos....and WAIT for the new stuff to settle
out...

says a guy running KDE3 on openSUSE 10.3, and lovin't it!!

--
brassy

recraig2 wrote:

> You didn't make the point, although you should have. Yast is giving this
> discrepancy because the higher version of file is not from an officially
> recognized repo. Yet Yast allows you to verify that you trust a repo and
> to install it's signature. But when you want to see which packages
> require updating based on your trusted repos, Yast takes over and
> demotes higher files from other repos. Am I right?
>
> This is a good explanation, of tyranny, but still an explanation.
> However, it does not explain the data I presented:
>
> Package...........................Installed (Available)
> kde4-keditbookmarks...(4.1.3-3.8.9).................<---In BLACK
>
> obviously not installed, but the Version tab reports:
>
> 4.1.3-3.8.9-x86_64 from repo-update
> 4.2.4-1.11-x86_64 from KDE:42
> 4.1.3-60.11-x86_64 from Education
>
> What gives? There is a higher version that Yast lists from one of my
> trusted repos. Yet, Yast doesn't even tell me it is available in the
> package list.

Sir, you said in your first post that "repo-update" has set a priority
of "20" and the rest of the repos were set at "99", is that correct?

If so, YaST is giving you the only possible chance with the priorities you
have configured.

AFAIK, YUM priorities state that if you want to install a *new package*
which is *available in more than one repo* (in your example, that
is "kde4-keditbookmarks") it will be used the repo with the higher priority
(in your example, that is "repo-update").

If you want YaST to show as available the newer version (4.2.4-1.11-x86_64
package from KDE:42 repo) just setup that repo with a higher priority than
the rest (i.e., a priority of "10").

Greetings,

--
Camaleón

[swerdna]

Originally Posted by recraig2

REALLY? With one person calling me a liar based on my first post and then you calling me stupid, you really have the nerve to say you didn't mean to offend me? You are f*@king joking!



And so what? You come across stuck up. So what? My post was NOT bullish. My replies are because two of you insulted me, tucked in with your so-called help.



I see. So your "friends" have come to your aid to fight. You have drawn sides when there was no fight. Which means you've started something here.

As for demonstration, the only thing demonstrated is closed-mindedness. No one has asked me for more info or screenshot or data to figure out what is happening and if this is a bug or not. I have already indicated that what was first suggested about priorities is not the case here. I gave the data in the first post, yet it has been ignored and I have been brushed aside since the FIRST post as if I don't know what I'm doing. Then I am offered answers to THAT attitude and insulted as well.



I see. So here we go again. Last time it was KDE 4.2. Everyone here was using that so know one knew what I was talking about when I swore there was no File Manager option for setting default applications. Screenshots were offered then too. Yet, in KDE 4.1.3 there actually was NO option to set File Manager. Now here we have someone swearing that what I am seeing with my own eyes is not true and this person uses the Factory version of KDE. Unbelievable! If you're going to offer help to someone at least offer it knowingly based on the version of KDE they have. If you can't then don't offer that info or state upfront that you are using a bleeding edge version that is probably not being used by most the rest of the universe.



I'll pull out my pecker for this one. Pissing contest begun!

...
I can see that this forum is for monkeys, not for serious people looking to discuss and find real answers. I've never participated in such a dis-functional forum.

• treat others you don't know as if they are stupid
• deny any bugs in the program you worship
• present anything you can, to seem smarter than the poster, even if it is irrelevant
• insult in a slight of hand manner, jab and antagonize when losing an argument
• when all else fails convince a moderator to ban your opponent
• refuse any offers to return to topic or to talk sensibly
• accuse the other of everything and deny any wrongdoing yourself

This is the sickest behavior I have seen in my 14 years on the Internet. Maybe I should cut you some slack since some of you might BE only 14.

You're out of order and need to cool off.

[deltaflyer44]

To all responders of this post,If the name calling,casting of aspersions/slagging off or whatever you call it does not cease, further action will be carried out. This is a friendly warning.further offences will not be tolerated

Andy

[ijbreakey]

Originally Posted by recraig2

Since you read my original post you were certainly calling me a liar. I already said the priorities were all set exactly the same at 99, save that one at 20. It is NOT about priorities. ALL are set to 99. You read that and yet you still wrote in a snide manner and yet expected me not to get upset. You are joking!

It just so happens the one repository you have set at 20 has KDE 4.1.3 packages. So, since you have the update repository set at 20, it gains higher priority over your other repositories, even the KDE repositories. Since the Update repository has KDE 4.1.3 packages, these packages will take precedent over the KDE 4.2 packages from the KDE 4.2 repositories because the KDE 4.2 repositories have a lower priority. So Yast was reporting your higher priority packages to be more up to date than your lower priority packages. That is why it was telling you the 4.1.3 packages were newer than the 4.2 packages.

I explained to you what happened. I do not believe that to be a snide manner, and as I said before, I apologized if you took it in an offensive manner. I did not directly or indirectly insult you in any way, so I'm not sure where you get off saying two people insulted you. I used the face to try to lighten up the post so you would in no way take it as offensive. If that's what offended you I'm sorry. As I said before, I'm only here to help.

Take Care,

Ian

[kgroneman]

Just FYI for anyone reading this thread, recraig2 and jackred have the exact same IP address and *appear* to be posting from the same machine. Can't we just be civil to each other? How does the saying go...something about attracting flies with honey?.....

[kastorff]

Time to move on. Thread closed.