kde 4.2 l10n woes

shai2platonix · #1 (**permalink**) 02-Jul-2009, 07:59

Hi,

I've been using opensuse 11.1 with KDE 4.2 for quite some time, and recently moved to the "stable" 4.2 repository. Things have generally been smooth.

Today, when I logged in, I saw something strange: The applications I had open when I logged out, did not start automatically. I found that a little strange. Then I realized my desktop was partially borked in other ways; the most troublesome was, my multiple-keyboard-layout setting was gone. I couldn't switch to my second language, Hebrew.

So I opened the desktop settings; the list of languages was empty. I added Hebrew, and then I could switch languages. Thought I had things fixed. But not quite -- this set Hebrew as my main interface language. I want US-English, but it is nowhere to be found nor added.

I found that I can lower the priority of Hebrew -- the region/language dialog behaves as if I have two languages, Hebrew and (empty). This had no effect -- the interface is still Hebrew. I searched for a kde4-l10n-en_US package, but none is to be found.

In trying to research the problem, I found that I have both a .kde and a .kde4 folder, files like share/config/kdeglobals are recently updated in both, with different contents. I am a little at a loss.

Any hints would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Shai.

caf4926 · #2 (**permalink**) 02-Jul-2009, 09:07

Guess we better have a look at your repo's: In a terminal do:

Code:

zypper lr --details

post result

shai2platonix · #3 (**permalink**) 02-Jul-2009, 10:28

I don't think there's anything particularly suspicious here...

Code:

~> zypper lr --details
#  | Alias                      | Name                                                | Enabled | Refresh | Priority | Type   | URI                                                                                                | Service
---+----------------------------+-----------------------------------------------------+---------+---------+----------+--------+----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+--------
1  | Games                      | Games                                               | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/games/openSUSE_11.1/                                     |
2  | KDE4-Facroty-Desktop       | KDE4-Facroty-Desktop                                | No      | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Community/openSUSE_11.1_KDE4_Factory_Desktop/ |
3  | KDE42                      | KDE42                                               | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/42/openSUSE_11.1/                                   |
4  | KDE:KDE4:Factory:Desktop   | KDE:KDE4:Factory:Desktop                            | No      | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Factory:/Desktop/openSUSE_11.1/               |
5  | Libdvdcss repository       | Libdvdcss repository                                | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://suse.linuxin.dk/repo/11.1/                                                                  |
6  | M17N                       | M17N                                                | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/M17N/openSUSE_11.1/                                      |
7  | OpenSUSE:_Science          | OpenSUSE: Science                                   | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/science/openSUSE_11.1/                                   |
8  | Packman Repository         | Packman Repository                                  | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://ftp.skynet.be/pub/packman/suse/11.1/                                                        |
9  | devel:tools:building       | devel:tools:building                                | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/devel:/tools:/building/openSUSE_11.1/                    |
10 | nvidia                     | nvidia                                              | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.nvidia.com/opensuse/11.1/                                                          |
11 | repo                       | openSUSE BuildService - Virtualization (VirtualBox) | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Virtualization:/VirtualBox/openSUSE_11.1/                |
12 | repo-debug                 | openSUSE-11.1-Debug                                 | Yes     | Yes     |  100     | yast2  | http://download.opensuse.org/debug/distribution/11.1/repo/oss/                                     |
13 | repo-non-oss               | openSUSE-11.1-Non-Oss                               | Yes     | No      |   99     | yast2  | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/repo/non-oss/                                       |
14 | repo-oss                   | openSUSE-11.1-Oss                                   | Yes     | No      |   99     | yast2  | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/repo/oss/                                           |
15 | repo-source                | openSUSE-11.1-Source                                | Yes     | Yes     |  100     | yast2  | http://download.opensuse.org/source/distribution/11.1/repo/oss/                                    |
16 | repo-update                | openSUSE-11.1-Update                                | Yes     | No      |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/update/11.1/                                                          |
17 | repo_1                     | openSUSE BuildService - KDE:Community               | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Community/openSUSE_11.1/                            |
18 | server:database:postgresql | server:database:postgresql                          | Yes     | Yes     |   99     | rpm-md | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/server:/database:/postgresql/openSUSE_11.1/              |

Thanks, Shai.

caf4926 · #4 (**permalink**) 02-Jul-2009, 10:57

No - it looks OK

Open Software Management
Filter by Repo
Select system

Do you see many RED packages, particularly with prefix: kde4-

Due to changes in naming Policy many packages previously kde4-*packagename, have dropped the kde4 prefix and the prefix has shifted to kde3

It takes some sorting, depending on your installed packages. Tell us what you see anyway.

shai2platonix · #5 (**permalink**) 02-Jul-2009, 11:18

I see some red packages -- some to do with Strigi (kde desktop search), some with suse branding, a few others. I had the impression that these packages have more advanced version numbers than non-red packages (e.g. some Soprano packages said 4.3.1). Also, there were some blue.

What do the colors mean? Does red mean "not available in current repositories", i.e. a kde4-factory left-over?

nightwishfan · #6 (**permalink**) 02-Jul-2009, 12:22

As for the language, I am from USA, however I prefer my language being set to EN-UK. You can use YaST to set the system language, and you can have your interface set in KDE settings. Above the box that has languages there is a bit of blue underlined text, and that allows you to set your region (and clock/money) to a locale.

caf4926 · #7 (**permalink**) 02-Jul-2009, 12:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by shai2platonix

I see some red packages -- some to do with Strigi (kde desktop search), some with suse branding, a few others. I had the impression that these packages have more advanced version numbers than non-red packages (e.g. some Soprano packages said 4.3.1). Also, there were some blue.

What do the colors mean? Does red mean "not available in current repositories", i.e. a kde4-factory left-over?

Red means the only available packages are Roll Backs or the package no longer exists. use the versions tab in software management and you will see.

Blue means Newer packages are available.

I suggest you now check in the kde42 desktop repo filter, and see if there are red and blue there. If yes, do update all in this list unconditionally, form the packages menu along the top. Apply.

Then go back to system filter and see what has changed.

*You don't want versions from the OSS repo, which was 4.1.3

shai2platonix · #8 (**permalink**) 05-Jul-2009, 07:39

I did as recommended, and this indeed got rid of almost all red packages; the remaining ones, I don't care that much about, so I'll leave it at that. Thanks.

I was able to solve the UI language problem by just removing Hebrew. Now I only got a selectable empty line in the languages list, and the interface for all programs seems to be en-US, _and_ I also can change the keyboard to Hebrew. I don't know how stable or correct this is, but it seems to work for now.

Thanks for your help,

Shai.

caf4926 · #9 (**permalink**) 05-Jul-2009, 08:05

Good to hear.

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