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Old 28-Apr-2009, 02:42
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Default Re: Compiz or not Compiz? -old Nvidia

Yup, just what I suspected.

You're still using the nv driver with composite turned off. Neither compiz nor kwin can display effects with this configuration. So, what you'll need to do is install the drivers for your card.

First you'll need to install via the one-click for Legacy cards from here NVIDIA - openSUSE

Then restart the computer. If it won't boot into the gui then log in as root and then enter your root password. Then run

Code:
sax2 -r
This will automatically detect your nvidia card and use the nvidia drivers.

Post back here once you've done that.
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Old 28-Apr-2009, 20:13
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Default Re: Compiz or not Compiz? -old Nvidia

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Originally Posted by Stan_Ice View Post
Thanks for sysinfo:/ tip.

I changed my launcher/menu style to classic, can't find hwinfo in there. System information is available from "kickoff" style under computer.

It's Nvidia MX 440 with AGP, installed it via one click from nvidia section on opensuse site, nvidia server is now added to repositories.

Actually what happened is that I aborted nvidia driver installation yesterday and this morning the system wouldn't load X (or is it X11? - the GUI), it booteds into runlevel 5 and left me with console. I ran "you" from there and it downloaded some 700 MB of updates, it was the first update since install.

I went to the "one click" page again, selected appropriate legacy button and it was all ok. Then I went to the Compiz page on Opensuse and thought I was good to go (nvidia drivers, XGLI or something is on by default in 11.1 version), then I clicked on one click Compiz install, and package manager gave me several errors.

Checking soft manager for dependencies doesn't say produce anything.

I'm sure there's a way to run Compiz here, I just don't know how to diagnose the problems, or how to reinstall it.
Hi

I have the same graphics card and also had problems with the one klick nvidia drivers - especially after a update involving the kernel been updated.

So I went to the nvidia drivers download site and downloaded the driver from there and compiled my own kernel-module. Was quite easy to do - good instructions on nvidia site.

After that I had a good working/stable display to start with.

However I don't use compiz at all.

But it might help you if you get that nvidia driver correctly installed first. And - behold - every time your kernel is updated you re-compile a new kernel-module for your new kernel. For compiling you need the kernel-source and kernel-syms packages and gcc of course.

Hope that helps you.
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Old 28-Apr-2009, 21:17
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Default Re: Compiz or not Compiz? -old Nvidia

Hold on a minute with compiling my own kernel, let me figure out one click install first....

Ok, installed Nvidia drivers (again), system booted into console, ran sax2 -r, and it crashed. First it said it couldn't start X and was starting its own engine instead, then it crashed.

I ran "you", it recommended reinstalling nvidia, I accepted. Now system boots ok but only into 800x600 resolution. Tried changing it via Yast-Sax and the test screen looked ok, so I agreed and rebooted, no luck, still 800x600, and the log from the previous sax crash is gone - overwritten.

From what I remember it failed to load nvidia modules and couldn't configure "screens" - something like 'screens found but none could be configured'.
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Old 28-Apr-2009, 22:22
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Default Re: Compiz or not Compiz? -old Nvidia

Hmm.. that's different. Do not listen to the other poster's advice unless you FIRST uninstall the driver you downloaded via yast.

Try opening up a terminal and retrying these commands:

Code:
su
type root password

Code:
nvidia-xconfig --composite
nvidia-xconfig --render-accel
nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals -d 24
Then hit alt+f2 and type this

Code:
kdesu kwrite /etc/X11/xorg.conf
Type root password

Once kwrite opens up find the section labeled Section "ServerLayout" and if it's not already there add this line

Code:
Option "aiglx" "true"
Then click save.

Restart your computer.
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Old 28-Apr-2009, 22:43
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Default Re: Compiz or not Compiz? -old Nvidia

All done, this time nvidia-config didn't throw any errors.

Still in 800x600 mode.

If it's of any use, here's current xorg.conf:

# nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig
# nvidia-xconfig: version 1.0 (buildmeister@builder63) Mon Feb 23 15:43:26 PST 2009

# /.../
# SaX generated X11 config file
# Created on: 2009-04-29T09:06:43+0700.
#
# Version: 8.1
# Contact: Marcus Schaefer <sax@suse.de>, 2005
# Contact: SaX-User list <https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/sax-users>
#
# Automatically generated by [ISaX] (8.1)
# PLEASE DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE!
#

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "Layout[all]"
Screen "Screen[0]" 0 0
InputDevice "Keyboard[0]" "CoreKeyboard"
InputDevice "Mouse[1]" "CorePointer"
Option "Clone" "off"
Option "Xinerama" "off"
Option "aiglx" "true"
EndSection

Section "Files"
InputDevices "/dev/gpmdata"
InputDevices "/dev/input/mice"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/misc:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/local"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/Type1"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/URW"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/Speedo"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/PEX"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/cyrillic"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/latin2/misc:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/latin2/75dpi:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/latin2/100dpi:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/latin2/Type1"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/latin7/75dpi:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/baekmuk:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/japanese:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/kwintv"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/truetype"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/uni:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/CID"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/ucs/misc:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/ucs/75dpi:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/ucs/100dpi:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/hellas/misc:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/hellas/75dpi:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/hellas/100dpi:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/hellas/Type1"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/misc/sgi:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/xtest"
FontPath "/opt/kde3/share/fonts"
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load "glx"
Load "dbe"
Load "extmod"
Load "freetype"
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
Option "AllowMouseOpenFail" "on"
Option "ZapWarning" "on"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Keyboard[0]"
Driver "kbd"
Option "Protocol" "Standard"
Option "XkbLayout" "us"
Option "XkbModel" "microsoftpro"
Option "XkbRules" "xfree86"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Mouse[1]"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Buttons" "5"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option "Name" "Logitech M-UV69a Optical Wheel Mouse"
Option "Protocol" "explorerps/2"
Option "Vendor" "Sysp"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection

Section "Modes"
Identifier "Modes[0]"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor[0]"
VendorName "--> VESA"
ModelName "1024X768@60HZ"
UseModes "Modes[0]"
DisplaySize 305 230
HorizSync 31.0 - 48.0
VertRefresh 50.0 - 60.0
Option "CalcAlgorithm" "XServerPool"
Option "DPMS"
Option "PreferredMode" "1024x768"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier "Device[0]"
Driver "nvidia"
VendorName "NVidia"
BoardName "GeForce4 MX 440 with AGP8X"
Screen 0
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen[0]"
Device "Device[0]"
Monitor "Monitor[0]"
DefaultDepth 24
Option "RenderAccel" "True"
Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"
SubSection "Display"
Depth 15
Modes "1024x768" "1024x600" "800x600" "768x576" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 16
Modes "1024x768" "1024x600" "800x600" "768x576" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1024x768" "1024x600" "800x600" "768x576" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 8
Modes "1024x768" "1024x600" "800x600" "768x576" "640x480"
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "Extensions"
Option "Composite" "Enable"
EndSection
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Default Re: Compiz or not Compiz? -old Nvidia

Everything in the xorg.conf looks great. Except for your monitor. Now what you want to do is use the graphical version of Sax2. Open Yast. Then under Hardware choose Graphics Card and Monitor. Manually choose your monitor or at least the same brand of monitor. Then choose the resolution you want. Click ok. It will run a test where you can configure anything else you need (such as if it's offscreen), then once you go through all that restart the computer.

Good Luck,

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Old 29-Apr-2009, 00:31
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Default Re: Compiz or not Compiz? -old Nvidia

Changed that in sax, monitor section in xorg looks ok, 1024x768, but there's no effect.

Found in "Nvidia X server settings" that display is set to 800x600, and there's no visible way to change it, all the options are grayed out, resolution is "auto" and "configure" has only "separate X screen".

If there's some button at the bottom of nvidia windows - it's off my screen in "X server display configuration". Using tab I managed to activate some buttons there, at some point it let me manually change "pan" to 1024x768, but what appears to be Apply gave me a list of five possible errors about X and "Apply what is possible" option.
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Old 29-Apr-2009, 01:29
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Default Re: Compiz or not Compiz? -old Nvidia

Sorry, after restart the display size is perfect. I thought log out -log in would be enough for restarting X.

Ok, Nvidia is fixed, now it's Compiz problem. Settings manager comes up but no changes, there's no Fusion icon yet to switch between Compiz/Kwin and know for sure.

There ARE some effects visible already - windows are opaque on dragging, for example, but I think they are from Personal Settings - Window - enable effects. Cube option from there doesn't work, there's no transition on Ctrl F11, not even drag, desktops simply switch.
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Default Re: Compiz or not Compiz? -old Nvidia

I found the problem with compiz installation lies in bad configured one-click-install. I did an update to compiz 8.2 stable version yesterday through one-click-install. I use gnome so used compiz-fusion-gnome click. The packages it tries to install conflict and it doesn't install properly, giving me options to ignore, not install, etc. The sources it uses are also weird. For the gnome click, it also adds a kde4 repository. Bump ?! This repo contains only 7.8 version and it wants to install packages from it which conflict with 8.2 version in other repos.

Solution: I went to software sources and deleted kde4 repo and other repos which shouldn't be added. That left me with only repos that contain 8.2 release. Updated compiz and it works great!

The thing what frustrates me most is the bad configuration of compiz-one-click. How can this be so bad configured when lots of people probably use it to install compiz??? I just don't get it. Luckily I've got enough experience to solve the problem myself, but for opensuse beginners I can understand this would be harder and one more reason to not use linux because it's "to hard".
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Old 29-Apr-2009, 03:15
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Default Re: Compiz or not Compiz? -old Nvidia

I believe Compiz was preinstalled, I hope it was a stable, compatible version. I did that one-click install and it probably screwed everything up.

I suspect "factory issued" Compiz was meant to be integrated into default window manager - it has a lot of same plugins and effects, but I'm speculating now.

Anyway, how to fix the existing one click Compiz? It gave several errors on install.
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