Ugly fonts

[RedDwarf]

Here you have lossless screenshots of GTK (Firefox), KDE4 (Konqueror), openOffice.org, KDE3 (showFoto) and SWT/GTK (Vuze) running in my 11.1 system.
Note that I use a CRT monitor, so no subpixel hinting in these images.

openOffice.org seems to wrongly detect the DPIs of my screen, so fonts are bigger (in the screenshot font size is 10pt instead of 12pt to look more similar). Everything else looks fine and consistent.

Like DallasDrifter comments I use MS fonts:

$ fc-match serif
times.ttf: "Times New Roman" "Normal"
$ fc-match sans-serif
arial.ttf: "Arial" "Normal"
$ fc-match mono
andalemo.ttf: "Andale Mono" "Normal"

BYTECODE_BW_MAX_PIXEL set to 18 (so MS Fonts don't use antialias and use embedded hinting info) and EMBEDDED_BITMAPS_LANGUAGES set to nothing (even if I don't know if this makes any difference).

I have qtcurve-(gtk|kde|kde4) installed, my DPIs set correctly (my monitor wongly specifies its size through EDID) and changed "Sans Serif" for "Arial" in KDE4 font properties because of https://bugzilla.novell.com/461181.
That's all, but note that I have neither "~/.fonts.conf" nor "~/.gtkrc-2.0-kde4".

[RedDwarf]

The SWT image:

[marcoslai]

I'm using 11.1 KDE4,best font for english so far is WenQuanYi Zen Hei,set the DPI to 120,adjust the font size to 11. In Firefox,select above font for Western,size as 15. A screenshot for u :
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[oldcpu]

My nominal fonts on 11.1, KDE-3.5.10 :

[stefan1975]

Originally Posted by oldcpu

My nominal fonts on 11.1, KDE-3.5.10

well to be honest I think those fonts actually look rather bad, just like mine.

At first I thought it was just me but due to this thread I installed ubuntu 8.10 on my spare pc just to check the difference and I must admit that it is insane how much better the ubuntu fonts look.

Admittedly fonts are personal and Kubuntu is actually rather crappy in the KDE department so I used a gnome ubuntu versus a KDE4 opensuse so some might be due to the fact that for some reason KDE4 does something horrible to fonts (imho the better looking fonts are all on Gnome-centric distros) but it was nearly enough to make me *cough* keep ubuntu on that pc *cough* (the dark theme is also actually rather nice by the way).

and it must be something ubuntu is doing right because when I load the freetype-ubuntu stuff from AUR on Archlinux I get the same crispy fonts in ARch as opposed to the vanilla packages.

stefan

[davideoli]

Situation improved by installing the font Verdana (follow the wiki) and by putting this in the xorg.conf file (in the section "Device")

  Option   "UseEdidDpi" "false"
  Option   "DPI" "96 x 96"

I'm using Gnome with an nVidia card.

[EarthMind]

This thread taught me a few things , one is that my fonts are looking great now and second is that I finally got rid of the ugly default OpenSUSE forum skin (thanks to oldcpu's screenshot).

Great

[dcengija]

Thank you all for you kind advices.

However, I'll try with KDE 3.5.10 to see if it works more consistent.

This is what I have now on openSUSE 10.3 and KDE 3.5



It shows Firefox, OpenOffice and KDE application. Note how the fonts are consistent, both in size and general appearance.

I admit that I had spent some time adjusting the font settings on 10.3 as well, but what drives me crazy is the need to do that with every new version of opensuse.

Cheers

[oldcpu]

Originally Posted by stefan1975

well to be honest I think those fonts actually look rather bad, just like mine.

You must have provided a horrible screen print then (in your 1st screen print), because in my subjective opinion, my fonts are way superior to yours (in your 1st screen print) !

[stefan1975]

Originally Posted by oldcpu

You must have provided a horrible screen print then (in your 1st screen print), because in my subjective opinion, my fonts are way superior to yours (in your 1st screen print) !

euhm well actually i didnt upload a screenshot yet, i havent been home yet, been too busy, lazy, xmas or whatever silly excuse not to have done so but any screen you might be referring to is defenitely not mine.

;-) S.