[threatingbehaviour]

oh yes,sorry it's called military time here but yeah, I figured it out...turns out I was using the kde3 setting and not 4 just went to configure desktop then regional&language settings and it worked...would be nice though if the kde guys just put that setting in the digital clock settings where it belongs, but anyway onto other issues...once I explore them a little more,and am still unable to figure them out I'll post...but thanks for your help