Robi2 wrote:

> ok I am now using wvdial and it seems to work.

Glad to hear that. Good apps never die :-)

> But I have some final
> observations here - That is, 1. kinternet doesn't work right in SUSE
> 11.1; 2. KPPP has been left out and the version I downloaded will not
> give me the needed permissions, so it's useless; 3.pppconfig is not
> included (works fine in all other distros); and 4.Gnome doesn't seem to
> include a dialer atall. If I was a newby I'd say it was just my lack of
> knowledge but I have used most major linux distros for several years.
> Mandrake 5.2 anyone?
>
> So it seems like Novell has gone out of their way to make life
> difficult. Wonder why. Oh, well...

I think the tendency is using networkmanager to handle all kind of dialer
connections (let's say dial-up modems, adsl modems and umts/gprs modems).

Anyway, if you don't like so much netwokmanager, just investigate a bit why
those apps (kinternet and kppp) are failing because both are (or have to
be) supported by openSUSE ;-)

Greetings,

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Camaleón