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Originally Posted by ivom66
1. If I plug a digital camera into my PC, a window pops up under Ubuntu offering me to import pictures/video clips. On openSUSE there is no such thing. I have to start F-spot under Gnome. I don't even know what would be the KDE application as I'm not using it. One might argue that this is not important, but for a linux novice it might be a big deal.
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Open a bug report (with your camera model and so...). Who knows where the problem is, but the thing is that a window should pop up and doesn't. So it's a bug... be a good user and report it.
Probably is a specific problem with your camera... until someone with that same camera reports it the bug will never be fixed.
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Originally Posted by ivom66
2. Restricted multimedia packages. I don't know where to begin here. Under Gnome, installing the restricted meta package does not help, you have to go and add few more gstreamer plugins to be able to see all video formats with totem. Under KDE it works, but if you enable desktop effects the video goes black. Then you have to thinker with Gstreamer video input until you find that X (or whatever works for you) helps.
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No idea what you mean with "restricted meta package". If you mean the 1-Click link from
http://opensuse-community.org/codecs-gnome.ymp... perhaps some more package should be added, if so report it. But looking into it with a text editor:
Code:
<!-- Gstreamer stuff -->
<item recommended="false">
<name>gstreamer010-plugins-bad</name>
<summary>Additional GStreamer codecs</summary>
<description>Additional GStreamer codecs</description>
</item>
<item recommended="false">
<name>gstreamer010-plugins-base-oil</name>
<summary>Additional GStreamer Codecs</summary>
<description>Additional GStreamer Codecs</description>
</item>
<item recommended="false">
<name>gstreamer010-plugins-good</name>
<summary>Additional GStreamer Codecs</summary>
<description>Additional GStreamer Codecs</description>
</item>
<item recommended="false">
<name>gstreamer010-plugins-ugly</name>
<summary>Additional GStreamer Codecs</summary>
<description>Additional GStreamer Codecs</description>
</item>
<item recommended="false">
<name>gstreamer010-plugins-good-extra</name>
<summary>Additional GStreamer Codecs</summary>
<description>Additional GStreamer Codecs</description>
</item>
<item recommended="false">
<name>gstreamer010-fluendo-mp3</name>
<summary>Fluendo GStreamer plug-in for mp3 support.</summary>
<description>Fluendo GStreamer plug-in for mp3 support.</description>
</item>
<item recommended="false">
<name>gstreamer010-fluendo-mpegmux</name>
<summary>Fluendo GStreamer plug-in for MPEG Transport Stream muxing</summary>
<description>Fluendo GStreamer plug-in for MPEG Transport Stream muxing</description>
</item>
<item recommended="false">
<name>gstreamer010-fluendo-mpegdemux</name>
<summary>Fluendo GStreamer plug-in for MPEG demuxing.</summary>
<description>Fluendo GStreamer plug-in for MPEG demuxing.</description>
</item>
<item recommended="false">
<name>gstreamer010-ffmpeg</name>
<summary>This plugin contains the FFmpeg codecs, containing codecs for most popular multimedia formats.</summary>
<description>This plugin contains the FFmpeg codecs, containing codecs for most popular multimedia formats.</description>
</item>
Which one do you think is missing? Note the 'recommended="false"'... perhaps you just forgot to check them? I have never used the 1-Click thing, but...
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Originally Posted by ivom66
3. More on multimedia: I tried ffmpeg from packman. It is compiled to support many formats, but the ffmpeg package will not install all libraries (e.g., libmp3lame, etc.). Under Ubuntu, if you enable Medibuntu repository, when you install ffmpeg it comes with all these libraries as dependencies, so that you don't have to chase them separately. You install it and use it.
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This one makes no sense at all. A package doesn't installs libraries... not in openSUSE and neither in Ubuntu. That's a task for the package manager.
The Packman repository is a good one. And I can say you for sure ffmpeg and all the needed deps are on Packman or OSS repository... so you just need to select it for install, the same than on Ubuntu.
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Originally Posted by ivom66
4. Audio: The volume control icon didn't work for me (just wouldn't open) until I added myself to the pulse group. It took me a while to get microphone to work (I had none of these problems on Ubuntu, things just worked on the same PC). Then I tried to use Ekiga. Aside from the fact that I did not figure out yet what ports to set in firewall, after closing Ekiga, volume control doesn't work again until I log out / log in again. Ekiga just works fine under Ubuntu, and since I'm sharing /home partition, it uses the same settings.
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There exists a bug with PulseAudio? I'm not surprised... it's something new, it's only used on Gnome, and there are less Gnome than KDE users in openSUSE to test it during the beta releases.
And so? Just report it and will be fixed.
About Ekiga... Ubuntu makes something special to help you to configure the firewall?
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Originally Posted by ivom66
5. KVM: On both Ubuntu and openSUSE it comes compiled to use /dev/dsp for audio instead of alsa (it puzzles me why this is the case).
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We are talking about Kernel Virtual Machine? I have never used KVM, so I don't really know. But since a lot of packages have been patched to use ALSA this one should also... open a bug report.
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Originally Posted by ivom66
I downloaded the latest KVM, version 70, and it was not a problem to compile it with ALSA support under Ubuntu. Under openSUSE, after I chased all the libraries, it started to compile, and somewhere in the middle of it there was an error. I just gave up, because I spent a lot of time just to find all the libraries, only to find out that that was not enough.
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This one neither makes sense. By *definition*, if you "find *all* the libraries"... that's "enough".
Anyway, to compile anything on Ubuntu you need all the libraries... the same on openSUSE. Sounds normal to me. zypper has the "source-install" option to find all the needed libraries for you.
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Originally Posted by ivom66
6. Some more on multimedia: It is easy to capture/edit videos from camcorders by using Kino. openSUSE decided not to provide binaries any more. I downloaded the latest Kino, and after reading through README file I saw that I will need a lot more libraries, so I'll leave that for some weekend when I have more time at my hands.
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I don't use it and I don't know why isn't packaged anymore. Probably it's because of patented codecs. Like in all these cases... Packman provides it. And it's the same than ffmpeg... just say YaST PM to install it and all deps will be magically installed.
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Originally Posted by ivom66
Does the openSUSE community really believe that multimedia and easy of use are not important?
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Today we have so good codecs because a lot of people investigated a lot to obtain them. To motivate them to continue investigating governs give them patents. openSUSE can distribute such codecs because of these patents (Novell isn't going to pay for them to give them for free, and users aren't going to pay for a openSUSE distro with patented codecs).
Hasn't nothing to do with believing it is important or not. This situation is clear, and explained in at least ten places.
About "easy of use"... I suppose you don't really expect an answer to that one.
If you want to help open bug reports where needed, this post doesn't helps.
Perhaps you didn't report a bug for your camera... but if it works on Ubuntu probably is because someone else did.
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Originally Posted by ivom66
3. As I said, I did set all the repositories, but now I have to find all the packages that are both in regular and packman repositories and "upgrade" them.
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Sorry? You don't *have* to upgrade them. If you want to, the package manager will select the latest verions automatically.
And if you do like me, that prefer official packages and only install Packman ones when have to... just set Packman with a lower priority.