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Default Re: openSUSE problems - a short list

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1. If I plug a digital camera into my PC, a window pops up under Ubuntu offering me to import pictures/video clips. On openSUSE there is no such thing.
On openSUSE KDE it does work. I have set it up to work on 4 different openSUSE PCs.

I had a Ubuntu friend complain to me it doesn't work on Ubuntu. Guess it doesn't always "just work" on Ubuntu either.

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2. Restricted multimedia packages. I don't know where to begin here.
No need to begin. I've had my Ubuntu friends grumble many times that they can't get their Ubuntu multimedia tuned to the same level I have on openSUSE. Its an incredibly simple matter on openSUSE of setting up your repositories. Read the stickie I posted in multimedia. Look at the links.

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... you have to go and add few more gstreamer plugins to be able to see all video formats with totem. Under KDE it works, but ...
I never use Totem. I don't like it. IMHO smplayer, vlc, and even xine-ui and kaffeine are superior to Totem. Although frankly, reading the rest of your post, I'm not surprised you struggled .... Please, no offense intended, ... we all have to learn sometime.

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3. More on multimedia: I tried ffmpeg from packman. It is compiled to support many formats, but the ffmpeg package will not install all libraries (e.g., libmp3lame, etc.).
You have a choice on openSUSE for either the vlc ffmpeg, or the Packman ffmpeg. Also, if you setup your repositories this is painless, and one can sort lame for ffmpeg. Again, my experience is the openSUSE ffmpeg has more up to date capabilities/features than that of the Ubuntu ffmpeg.

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4. Audio: The volume control icon didn't work for me (just wouldn't open) until I added myself to the pulse group.....
I've lost count of the number of times I have read of user-a note his sound worked for distribution-b, but not c. Hardware often works better in one distribution than other.

I can rattle off over a dozen cases of Ubuntu users not getting their sound to work. I spent some trying to help Ubuntu users with their sound in #alsa, until I stopped, as it was too frustrating. I was spending 95% of my time teaching the Ubuntu users Linux basics. But without doubt, the VAST majority of users with sound problems in #alsa are Ubuntu users.

Now thats NOT to say Ubuntu is bad for sound. IMHO its not. Ubuntu has the majority of Linux users and I would say the % of Ubuntu users with sound problems in IRC #alsa are about correct. Its simply no different than any other distro. I did observe in IRC #ubuntu that the help for sound was not very good, which was why IMHO many Ubuntu uses went to IRC #alsa for help.

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It is easy to capture/edit videos from camcorders by using Kino. openSUSE decided not to provide binaries any more.
Install Packman in your repos (or videolan). Its incredibly easy to do this.

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In conclusion, I didn't really spend much time with openSUSE,
It shows.


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Does the openSUSE community really believe that multimedia and easy of use are not important?
IMHO openSUSE is SIGNIFICANTLY superior to Ubuntu in multimedia.

IMHO your problem was you simply did not know what to do to set yours up, and rather than spend some time on this forum and IRC #suse trying to get help, you made an inaccurate assessment.

By the way, my friends who are struggling with Ubuntu multimedia have been using Ubuntu for over 3 years. They also really like Ubuntu, and I do my best to help them by email, and they send the occasion tidbit my way. But there are limits to the help one can provide via email.

I also have friend/colleagues who use Fedora, and they think it great. Some of them are VERY advanced in their Linux knowledge, and have their multimedia tuned quite nicely.

I see no point in bashing another distribution. There is far more to be gained by helping.

But I am on openSUSE for a reason, and multimedia is one BIG reason. With packman and videolan (plus some other less well known packagers), multimedia is simply better on openSUSE than most other Linux distributions. And that includes Ubuntu.
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