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Old 21-Jun-2008, 07:52
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Default Re: Managing Software

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if openSUSE is properly installed for gramma,
Here is my point.
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of course, i didn't give her the root password ;-)
Actually, it's even possible to set up a LFS system and give it to a grammy.

She will use it, and very propably like it, but is she able to configure stuff herself? I mean, what you guys is trying to explain me is not "linux for gramma", but "linux for a gramma and her grandson".

I have to admit that "linux for gramma" is a metaphor. Currently there is a trend among popular linux distros to become the easiest as possible: GUI tools with Windows feeling, wow easy to install/uninstall package manager(CNR), "smart" pop-ups that tell you what to do with your pc, and blablabla. And, the current trend says: "oh if a gramma can use the distro out-of-the-box, then it's a nice distro."

Of course, it's important to have distros like this, but should every distro aim this target? I mean, what is "easy" for beginner does not necessarly mean "useful" for a power-user. For example, yast is overkill for a linux newbie, but a linux user with a good experience, yast if an amazing tool. On the other hand, the "add and remove software" shipped with ubuntu or fedora is very cool for newbie, but I don't use it since I can't really know which packages are installed.

Sure, we can do both: provide tools for beginner and advanced users. But a live-cd is 700mb, a dvd is around 5gb: there is some limit. Also, if we really want suse to be newbie friendly, we will have to revamp the whole layout, since "putting yast outside of control center may scare newbies...".

Hey, what about people who aren't newbies?
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AFAIK, the infamous apt-get-deb isn't going to solve
this either.
A package manager build upon aptitude may solve it. But I like zypper, it sounds good.
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